Send us a text Summary In this episode, Matt Payne shares his journey from a struggling student to a successful figure in the entertainment industry, highlighting his transition into travel journalism and his efforts to build the film industry in Oklahoma. He discusses the importance of understanding the business side of creativity, the balance between art and commerce, and how personal experiences shape storytelling. Matt emphasizes the value of teaching as a means to master one's craft and demystifies finance and accounting for creatives. He reflects on the role of pain in creativity and the humor found in life's challenges, concluding with insights into his current projects and future directions. Takeaways Matt Payne's journey began with a summer movie camp. He transitioned from writing TV shows to travel journalism. Building the film industry in Oklahoma is a key focus. Understanding business is crucial for creatives. Financial acumen empowers creative decision-making. Teaching enhances mastery of one's craft. Pain and humor are intertwined in storytelling. Creatives must balance art with commercial viability. Demystifying finance helps artists thrive. Trusting the process can lead to new opportunities. Grab the entire Profit First for Creatives Book for FREE: https://christianbrim.com/free-book-download/ Are you ready to pay yourself more… yeah it’s called an S-Corp. ➡️ https://calendly.com/cbrim/free-consultation-clone